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Where we differ. Maybe, just maybe, we do some things better in Oz...

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I think, a pro life-attitude and sexual education are by no means contradictive. They are complementary aspects of a responsible use of the gift of sexuality. I admire Sarah Palin for her decision to accept a disabled child. The value of a human being is absolutely untouched by a physical or mental handicap! But the unwanted pregnancy of her daughter Bristol shows, how ideals can sometimes differ from reality.
"US political philosopher"

That is what I would consider an oxymoron in this day and age. :)



If there is one thing I bloody well ABHOR it is people dragging their small children out on stage to make a political point. He's not a handbag, he's a child so don't use him as a crass photo prop to get your pro-life point across. Bringing a Downs Syndrome child up with the help of a supportive family and the wages of a state governor is entirely different to bringing it up on your own in the back end of Texas on welfare. Does she not get the message that not all women are in her circumstances? The more I read the more annoyed I get.
i just read this article this morning in the Sydney Herald

it bugged the hell out of me

pretty freakin low when you have to trot out your 4 month year old baby with Down's for a damn photo op.

is there nothing she/they won't do?

clearly not

my mother works with kids with mental and physical disabilities

i've been around Down's kids my whole life

and let me tell you that most of these parents split up - because the hardships - economically, mentally, and physically - were simply insurmountable

that this PERSON, who shows an utter lack of awareness of any socio-economic intricacies beyond those of her immediate sphere, brought the issue of women's reproductive rights down to such a shallow level is irresponsible and frankly, unconscionable

this woman is monstrously unsuited to be Vice-President of anything bigger than a hunting lodge
It'd be an oxymoron here too.
Apparently it's OK for her to use her kids for political advantage, but not OK for others to point to her daughters pregnancy as an example of the failure of the Republican Party's failed abstinence policy.
My cousin gave birth to a Downs Syndrome baby long before the test was available to determine the likelihood. Her husband went mad, accused her of sleeping around, and never worked again. They did stay together, but the birth brought much unhappiness to all the family.
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I think the main difference between the US and Australian political systems is the role of religion. In Australia you could be a self-declared atheist and still lead the country. This would not be possible in the US so everyone at pains to demonstrate their religious cred on issues such as this one. Very sad, I think. Religious beliefs should be a personal thing, not something you wear as a badge of honour.
Agreed. One of the reasons I was glad to see the back of Howard was because of his cultivation of the religious right wacko groups here in Oz.
Yes! Rudd also religious but doesn't seem to mix his religion with his politics like Howard did (although it possibly informs some of his prioriites, eg, the Apology).
Which is as it should be.

"It must be nice to live in a country like that."

I have to agree.

Some things just boggle my mind. The hypocrisy of claiming to be pro-life yet supporting an unjust war makes my mind whirl in confusion.

You can bet that those same Repubs who support Governor Palin's daughter's decision (as though it were any of their business anyway) to keep and raise her child would also condemn and stigmatize another 17-year-old making the same choice if she went on welfare. Again, the hypocrisy stinks.

Typical politician really, "Do as I say, not as I do". How can she possibly still be preaching abstinence when it hasn't even worked in her own household? Surely to god she can see the irony?
It seems as though the sheeple can't. McCain now leads Obama in one poll I saw today.
that's another argument i tried with my parents, Vicola, to bring them back to their senses - but, apparently, my mother is now under the view that "things happen" - and then went on about admiring Palin because she made her daughter "take responsibility for her actions" - that's probably the biggest load of tripe i've ever heard from my mother - she's gone to the dark side, and has taken the "Do as I say, not as I do" route - my step-dad's even more sheeple and is just following her lead - trust me, the irony is just as thick in my family right now - and they're among the borderline ones who have completely gone over to the dark side (who adore Palin - and totally fell for the Down's baby photo op.), and are going to have directly contributed to the further downfall of the US if these two get elected - they are among the people who have being completely takin in -town mentality is the sort of thing which lead to this type of denial and ignorance - they're snowed and they don't know it - they don't think she's a "typical politician"

but as you said, of course she is
I notice that Ms Palin's 'pro-life' stance only applies to humans, she's quite happy to flit merrily around the countryside blowing the bejesus out of anything furry that is unfortunate enough to cross her path. She is a typical politician in that if you follow her ideas back to their logical conclusion they don't make any bloody sense - Abstinence although her own daughter has proved it doesn't work, pro-life as long as you are human and not animal, doing it all for 'her family' but not worrying about cynically using a Down's Syndrome baby to make a cheap political point. She's not better and no different to anything that's gone before. Just because you put a loaded gun in a family-friendly, pretty, well marketed, Christian package, doesn't make it less bloody dangerous when you get to the actual item inside.

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