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The Name of the Dame

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You always bring up very interesting points. I took my spouses name when I got married but never gave it much thought as to why I did it. I guess out of tradition. I don't know if I'd do it again...

I have an online acquaintance who did something interesting when she got married; she and her husband combined their last names and came up with a new one that they both took!
We must also consider that it's not an uncommon thing today for children to have a different last name from their mother when she remarries after a divorce or widowhood, and no one seems to have a problem with family members having different surnames then.
Not exactly, as someone in that situation i can tell you from experience it does cause problems, most of the time they are minor problems but after facing those problems over and over again it gets tiresome and annoying to have different last names. If no kids were involved or going to be involved though, im not sure if there would be any issues outside of possible legal confusion that might come up over having different surnames.

Also very creepy is women who keep their ex-husband's name after they divorce him. That always scared me. At some point the hyphenated name became popular and sometimes extremely annoying in my mind, but it's a good compromise.

I actually have heard of men taking women's names. Then again I know an inordinate number of men who call themselves feminists.

The vast majority of women I know who change their name do so for much more mundane reasons: it's because they've always hated their last names or even not felt connected to their families and they look forward to having that shiny, brand-new name.

I totally agree though that there is absolutely some oppression / sexism in all this at times.

I think this is common and it's not to me a bad reason to change names. Although we should take our ancestry seriously I don't see any reason to keep a name we don't feel connected to. I wound up with my sister's dad's (not my dad's) last name so I changed my last name to match my grandma's. It was one of the best things I ever did. ;)

Great post!!

I took back my maiden name when I got divorced so I had a different last name from my kids. Once in a while I would get called Mrs. XYZ (usually by someone at the school) and have to correct them. However I didn't see it as a problem, an issue, or even an annoyance.
I didnt consider getting called by the wrong name although that happens often enough to. Maybe its because you went back to your maiden name instead of another name completely. As i said the issues are always minor and usually fixed within a few minutes but it has and does cause continous problems ranging from the irs questioning my relationship to my children, and the time when i requested copies of my childrens birth certificates that was a nightmare with me having to send a ton of paperwork including my marriage license to get them. Most of the issues have been because of the rampant identity theft so ive had to more then a few times prove im actually who i say i am. Also there was that time back when you could fly to canada without a passport and only had to have a birth certificate, for some reason when they ran the check on my birth certificate it didnt show up that i had re-married. Ive also had a few problems with insurance when it comes to my girls. A hospital my oldest was in for over a week put down the same surname my girls have for me and when thier was a problem with the insurance saying they wouldnt pay thier part and i had to call the hospital to get documentation they refused to give me any information over the phone because they didnt have me (my name now) listed as the responsible party. The last ones happened more then a few times when dealing with healthcare providers and insurance companies.

first BS about kids having the last name. Bottom line, as you point out, with the skyrocketing divorce and remarriage rates, this is probably far more common than not.

Frankly, it simply never occured to doug or I that I WOULD change my name - I mean it is not something we even DISCUSSED - while as a feminist I see the dichtomy in that ultimately, as my father's daughter from that generation - I STILL bear the name of a male - at least until I die, my name is the one I began life with. In quebec, women legally retain their maiden names - quebec is far from stupid and do it purely for prosaic and practical reasons.... so the taxman can followeth ...

As far our kids were concerned - we talked about it and compromised in that as he conceded to my desire to bring the kids up catholic (he was and is an atheist and of course his viewpoints were clearly expressed and aired in the house!) I agreed the kids would have his last name.

My own personal hate is hypthenated names ... I`m waiting for this generation when TWO hypthenated partners decide to marry ....

apart from anything else, I find it wishy washy - as if trying to compromise but in a wimpy, can`t make a decision, take a stand, way!

Even my sister - she kept her name but they hypthenated the kids`- still don`t agree with it - take a stand!

And incidentally, I have NEVER had an issue with insurance, anything legal, etc - becuase it quite simply is unlikey - if you`ve followed up with appropraite paperwork! But then this is Canada and we are a little more enlightened I think, in this area, than the United States!

Regardless I dont see the big deal either way unless your one of those woman who lets a name define them or feels threatened by taking on your husbands name. Actually thinking about it, it could almost be reversed. If you view taking your spouses name as losing part of your identity then wouldnt that almost mean that your unsure of the strength of your own identity.

In canada the paperwork dealing with health care and insurance would be easier and less likely to cause issues because you have a completely linked network something Obama wants to do in the US and has been possible for years but for now our system isnt linked so paperwork does not go as smooth as it would in a linked system. It has nothing to do with enlightenment and everything to do with our soon to be past piss poor administrations self serving priorities.

actually, FAR more men than women I know hve issues with the whole "what to do" thing - and in MOST cases where I have friends who took their husband's name it was because their potential husbands were the ones who felt "threatened" by their NOT taking.

Ultimately, gloss it over or not - pretend it is not an issue, but bottom line, it IS and remains a form of misogny.

Misogyny? i doubt seriously most people would say taking the name of your husband or him wanting you to take it is based on the hatred of woman no more then its based on misandry or philogyny.

As for the people you know, maybe they should of found better potential husbands, maybe potentials without ego problems.
In the end, to each his own, you have a good day.

well, we'll have to agree to disagree Indiana - and frankly, I seriously doubt anyone you know would have any different reactions as I know a fairly eclectic group of people!

and yes, ultimately the whole practice began when women were property and passed on from one male to another - that isn't radical feminism, that is just plain fact!

you have a graet day too.

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